Final Fantasy XIII

[Testament]

Why FF XIII is a bad game:

 

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The whole game is completely linear until halfway through [approximately 20 hours].

 

There are hardly any towns.

 

The party is always fixed. The whole game just repeats the movie-battle sequence over and over [in fact the progression is closer to movie-run-battle-run-movie-boss-movie-run-battle…].

 

There are rather a lot of movies.

 

Moving around is like a long marathon.

 

The whole game system is just a clone of FF10.

 

You can’t flee battles [You can’t avoid most battles either as there is no sneaking past enemies, including weak ones].

 

Your party is completely healed after each battle.

 

If the main character in your party dies it is game over [There are only ever 3 characters in battle, often less, and often fixed].

 

The best tactic is almost always endlessly attacking. There is next to no strategy or skill involved.

 

The summons’ transformation scenes are a joke [i.e. Odin turning into a horse].

 

The story is rubbish… [spoilers omitted, but complaints centre on Snow’s constant and cringe inducing insistence that he is a hero and will “protect” whatever it is the antagonists are menacing this time]

 

Shopping is only done at “online” shops on save points, with no proper shops to be found.

 

However, this doesn’t matter as you hardly ever get any money [and you can never buy anything more powerful than what you already looted].

 

There have been next to no changes from the demo.

 

The status screen displays no real information.

 

There are only 8 items usable in combat [For that matter, there are hardly any weapons or accessories, and the “crafting” system mostly consists of spending drops to upgrade their 2 stats].

 

There are no levels.

 

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Le prime critiche online.

Eikichi dimmi di no, ti prego XD

 

se la metà di queste è vera è un FAIL

[Guardian of Irael]

Quella serie di critiche viene dal 2ch, alcuni (almeno così ho letto) le ritengono esagerate...non so però quanto di vero ci sia; fatto sta che hanno fatto preoccupare non poco anche me...

[VAL]

Prima si gioca, poi si giudica. U_U. Oh, beh.. Non ho la ps3 e non ho neppure l'box. Giudicherete voi.

[Cosmo]

Fra tutte mi terrorizza di più la critica che il sistema di gioco sia simile a ffx.

Reduce dal xii, mi viene la pelle d'oca.

Senza parlare del party guarito dopo ogni scontro.

Ma in effetti dette così valgono poco, si vedrà come queste caratteristiche sono integrate nel gioco.

[Eikichi]

Alcuni difetti sono palesemente commenti fanboy al contrario nel senso che sono gusti personali mascherati da difetti del gioco.

 

 

la cosa più riuscita del gioco è proprio il BS lo dicono veramente TUTTI.

 

che sia un clone di FF10 è vero...oddio che brutta affermazione! Nel senso che non ricalca la strada presa dal 12 ma bensi dal 10 (i pre-ps2 non li possiamo contare essendo old-school). il bs invece è ovviamente l'evoluzione del gambit system (free-roaming, mostri su campo ma finalmente un bs decente!)

 

 

 

 

occhio ai commenti sui forum o simili: c'è una brutta bestia su internet che sta girando: "STREAMING"!

 

in pratica i giappominchia mettono in streaming live i video mentre giocano a FF13....ecco da dove la gente fa i suoi commenti sul gioco =___=

 

 

per la durata: un japponerd ha messo sempre in sto cacchio di streaming lui che batte il boss finale e il video segna 35-38ore circa...come avrà fatto a goderselo? =___= non una missione extra, non un dialogo con gli npc...bah...

 

 

 

torniamo a cose più serie che i commenti fatti basandosi su video di youtube:

 

Mi spiace per i possessori della 360 (davvero), SE farà stare FF13 su 3 dvd mentre su ps3 sarà su 1 bluray.

 

La versione 360 perde quindi 15gb di dati!!!! E i video ne risentiranno =___= altrochè compressione....

 

se cercate una recensione più "seria" ecco gamefaqs:

 

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/review/R138395.html

 

e "tradotta in ita":

 

pagina tradotta con google

 

 

alla fine mancano solo 2 mesi, io non voglio più vedere video e spoiler di nessun genere. gioco a dragonage e aspetto..sarà il mio pad a giudicare, non un giapponerd che finisce un jrpg il più in fretta possibile per screditarlo.

 

 

EDIT: ah! Gli shop è vero che non ci sono ma non lo vedo come difetto. tu progredisci e aumenti i tuoi "link" per lo shop aumentando le cose acquistabili.

 

è un gioco futuristico non vedo perchè non rinnovarsi. ok...i più "vecchi" sentiranno la nostalgia di entrare negli shop ma è una scelta stilistica e ci può stare... (ricordiamo che il fine di una softhouse è VENDERE. e per vendere cercano di accaparrarsi più utenza possibile, e ricordiamo come in quasi TUTTI gli flp e survival-horror o più comunemente gli action non hanno negozi ma shop implementati nei vari menù: mgs,biohazard,gow,ecc...)

[Cosmo]

Sì, non è il discorso degli shop o simili a turbarmi, quanto il rischio-linearità. Intendiamoci, mi è piaciuto il X, ma un mondo vasto, carico di extra e di minuzie fino a scoppiare come quello del xii... insomma, spero mi dia la stessa sensazione di libertà e vastità, e non sia uno sparatu... ehrm, un gdr a rotaia come il x. ^_^

 

L'idea delle armi personalizzabili e di shiva-moto invece mi divertono parecchio.

[VAL]

Alcuni difetti sono palesemente commenti fanboy al contrario nel senso che sono gusti personali mascherati da difetti del gioco.

 

Ma è sempre così che funziona. Mascheriamo quello che non ci piace come se fosse un difetto.

 

Io è da sempre che ripeto che FF9 è un gran bel gioco, ha una trama che ha qualche calo qualitivo verso il finale ( più che altro ha un finale vogliacco dopo aver fatto una trama crudele violentissima) , ma è il mio terzo final fantasy preferito dopo il 7 e il 6.

 

Molta gente però lo critica solo perchè non accetta che abbia atmosfere favolesche e colorate ( sebbene la trama sia tutt'altro che una favola). La versione italiana poi... con i dialetti Gh... Molto meglio ,la versione Usa.

 

 

A me final fantasy 10 non è piaciuto. Non mi è piaciuto Tidus , non è piaciuta la storia, non mi è piaciuto il gameplay.

L'unica cosa bella è finale, che però i bastardi si sono RIMANGIATI con Final fantasy X-2

 

però moltissima gente adora Final fantay 10, quindi è chiaro è una questione di miei gusti personali e non difetti.

[spriggan]

Bè tanto la PS3 volevo cmq prenderla a gennaio... Una ragione in più :)

 

Apro OT

 

Aaaah che palle.... tutti drogati di GDR Jappotransessuali.. e nessuno che gioca all' XI online :(

Tra l'altro il XIV sembra davvero cafone. Anche se pare che l'hanno reso molto action alla WOW.

Amarezza.

 

Chiudo OT

[Sey]

Riapro l'OT

 

L'XI è l'MMORPG più cagoso che io abbia mai visto. Con questo nuovo final fantasy online stanno prendendo spunto dal miglior MMORPG che c'è sul mercato, WoW appunto, ma secondo me sarà un altro fallimento.

 

Parlo così perchè ho già vista la stessa situazione. Arriva un nuovo MMORPG che dovrebbe essere il WoW killer e fallisce sempre miseramente. Poi spriggan... non so cosa intenda tu per action... ma WoW non è per niente action xD

 

Chiudo OT

[spriggan]

Ok. Prima che ci intimano di tornare OT ti rispondo.

 

Inanzitutto non siamo + amici. :D

 

Sarò rapido.

 

-Final è uscito 2 anni prima di Wow. Quindi difficilmente sarebbe potuto esserne la killer application.

-2 anni in termini videoludici sono un enormità.

-Wow è cartoonesco, Final realistico. La realizzazione della grafica di Wow è migliore, ma non dimentichiamoci

che il figurativo è un tantinello + esoso a livello di prestazioni del cartoon.. ma vabbè :D

-Wow non è il miglior MMPORG sul mercato, ne ha definito lo standard. E' molto diverso.

-Wow è + semplice da giocare, e meno impegnativo di Final. Di conseguenza risulta anche meno appagante (li conosco entrambi). Questo però in realtà è un punto a favore di Wow. La square l'ha capito ed è corsa ai ripari nel XIV.

Mi riferivo a questo col termine "action". In teoria non è per forza un problema.. so gusti. Secondo me Final spesso era davvero troppo troppo esoso a livello di ore richieste di gioco per effettuare una determinata quest.

-Il XIV rischia di essere davvero una scopiazzatura di Wow in chiave Enix.

-Final costa caro. Pare che il XIV costerà sui 20 euro al mese. Un prezzo davvero bastardo. Il vecchio ne costava circa 10, cmq molto più di Wow. Anche questo ha sicuramente contribuito nell'affossare il prodotto Square.

Soprattutto perchè entrambi sono pieni di RMT dimmerda. E pagare per farselo mettele nel profondo sud da un dannatissimo "insulto etnico qualsiasi" che si claima anche le mutande di tua nonna è davvero follia.

 

Chiudo OT.

 

E cmq non siamo + amici :D

Edited December 24, 2009 by spriggan

[Sey]

Ma dai cucciolo non dire così :*

Il fatto è che Final Fantasy XI era troppo farmoso, dovevi uccidere gozzilioni di mob per fare exp e alla lunga era stancante(soprattutto se morivi). WoW mi piace di più per molti versi, prima di tutto conosco la storia e quindi apprezzo di più il gioco in generale, secondo il sistema di classi + talenti... ma vabbè non ci infossiamo. Che sia più semplice da giocare... boh non sono d'accordo, ma non credo sia questa la sede per parlarne.

 

Comunque l'unico MMORPG che reputo l'unico "superiore" a WoW è ancora Dark Age of Camelot, quello era un bel gioco cavolo.

 

Chiusa parentesi. Ora vado in macchina a piangere con il cd di Fendano Fenno perchè mi hai detto che non siamo più amici ;_;

[FenriX`]

Un minuti di silenzio per la fine dell'amicizia fra Sprig e Sey...

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[perdonatemi, non ho saputo trattenermi]

[Uwye]

La mappa delle prima ore di gioco...

 

http://img4.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/safe-misc-ii/final-fantasy-xiii-extreme-linearity.jpg

[Eikichi]

REGALO DI NATALE:

 

questa è la "recensione" di un ragazzo jappo che ha finito il gioco (in 77 ore)

 

è esente da spoiler su trama o simili e mi sembra piuttosto "neutrale" come recensione.

 

direi la più esaustiva e dettagliata recensione mai vista in vita mia! XD

 

 

Finally stopped and found the time to post my impressions. It'll be long and I'll try to structure my posts. I'll probably write a review once I'm completely done with the game.

 

Story

I'll get this out of the way first. I won't reveal any spoilers. I'll say that I do like narrative structure. It feels like a tighter evolution of FFX and all characters equal screen time. The plot isn't really just about Lightning and those complaining about FFXII or any other FFs "I-join-you-because-I-can" playable characters won't find any here. Even Vanille, who looked like she might be this game ditsy girl with very little actually involvement turned out to be crucial. Snow is probably the one I think the least plotwise since he's too shonen for me. The plot is something that you would expect from a JRPG and if you go in with expectations of something larger you might be disappointed. The plot's strong suit is in it's presentation:the pacing, cutscenes and the constant switching of perspective leaves non of the PCs hanging with nothing to do.

 

The game uses flashbacks to reveal what happened in the 13 days before the start of the game. One letdown is that most of the plot from the web novel has been left out and condense into entries in the Autoclip option or very short scenes. I would agree, however, that putting in those scenes would make the pace less tight. There's no delay(none of that fight only a few fights in the first few hours of FFX) in throwing you right in. All that "calm before the storm" scenes are showed to us through flashbacks from various perspectives. Reminds me a bit like Lost actually. You'll only piece everything together after 8 to 9 chapters or so.

 

There is no filler in the plot at all and no fetch quests. None of that "fix the broken bridge by helping the builder find the axe that he lost in a cave that is 1 dungeon away" kind of filler in this. This means that there's no delay done to drag gameplay out. On one hand it keeps the pace there. On the other I wished that they could show even more of the characters.

 

If I have any complains at all, it would be that the villains didn't get enough screentime, especially 2 of them ( I will not mention). The ending also felt a bit short.

 

Graphics and Overall Presentation.

 

I would say that this is definitely the best looking JRPG on consoles now. The fields are gorgeous. The draw distance is pretty amazing and it seems that this is possible because they prerendered the things that are really far away. This includes the skies so you get FMV like skies instead of obviously fake clouds. The ground textures (as everyone had been complaining about once) could do some improvement but the art direction and other details really draw you away. Ground textures are only bad when you're in certain battle fields but battles are too fast for you to be concerned about them. The good spell effects and the character/enemy models are all very good and look even better when you explore places that are brighter.

 

Dungeons comes in a few sizes. They get longer as you progress further. Not all of them are very linear but usually distractions from the main section leads only to treasures or offer a way to make a roundabout for you to ambush your enemies from the back. I would say that the game offers a good balance between tight corridors and larger areas. Even when you get linear maps, the art design and the vast draw distances prevents you from feeling claustrophobic. There is no lazy repeating of areas. None of that cut can paste the same room and put them in every third room that you go to. Unless you nit pick of course, Caves can only look that different from each other, especially when we're talking about the same cave. Out of all the dungeons, I only dislike 1 of them.

 

The FMVs are the usual top notch FMVs from SE. The real time cutscenes are usually really good. SE really did use most of the polygons on faces and hair. Like FFX, they have a few different character models for each character but the differences are not bad like FFX's ( remember Tidus' expressionless low polygon model?). Some scenes had bad hand modelling but they're usually not important scenes. The characters all have expressions and react according even when they're not talking (again, unlike FFX). The final cutscenes during the last boss was particularly impressive in terms of how they bothered using all of their best character models (meaning round hands). Vanille even had necklaces that have parts that are almost as round as those early screen shots.

 

The Menu design is easy to use. No going into menus of menus to get something done. Every thing looks clean and easy to read. The Crystalium menus looks good gets better as you unlock more stats because it'll open up like this tree of coloured-discs with the character's crystal in the middle. It's really hard to describe. I can do without something though. Everytime you try unlocking stats, you press the button and this glowing light will travel forward, light up the path, and lights up the next node. The time taken is as long as the amount of CP needed. So it takes longer during endgame. It's very short, maybe a second but can get annoying after 77 hours of gameplay.

 

Another complain would be the weirdly named Auto clip. It's FFXIII equivalent of FFXII's Primer but it is like his lesser cousin. For one, it is very weird organised. It gives you a summary of the events so far as well as character profiles that get updated as yoy play. You also get lores of the world and short description of the terms and places. The enemy data base however is not like FFXII's. You get no short description nor lore, just stats. I would like to know more about the monsters. Why are King Behemoths wearing jeans?!! And why do Adamantaidais look like they have a seat on their back?

 

Changing Optima settings on the fly is also irritating. You have to go into the menu to do it. personally I think that L2 or R2 should be used for opening up a menu that is like the one in battles because that would make streamline it further. You need to change your starying optima while facing different enemies if you want to win quicker.

 

I actually like having shops at save points. Making everything available from save points means less pointless traveling (although that is not present here, you can't go back to places from Chap1-10). The game explains that online shopping is the norm in Coccoon. And that the shopping districts in Palomporum is a new but rising trend.

 

The menus in battles are much better than the ones in the demo, It is easy to find abilities since they've been separated into different roles. I would remove 2 things though. There is no need to display the Optima change button symbol on the top left. One could argue that the name of the Optimas is also there but there's no real need for the Optimas to be sbown. You know what roles your characters are currently in. The Driving Mode with a Square Symbol that appears when summons are around is also needless. Driving Mode could have been done with commands instead since you don't move the summon around anyway. Making us press up and circle(this does not really make you feel more actiony) to choose a command is only fun for the first 2 or 3 times. A stylised menu would have worked better.

 

 

Battles

 

The game introduces battle elements bit by bit. Anything new is always followed by a tutorial in battle. You start off with no magic because of plot reasons and is given time to experience with the basic battle system. After some 2 hours you get introduced to the Crystalium system and the Optima Change System. At this point in time, there is still very little need to switch optima to survive battles. The area ends with a boss fight that is accompanied by a tutorial for the Optima system. If you don't learn that changing optima at the right time is crucial, you will most likely fail to win.

 

The difficult levels spikes up from this point on. Sometimes it's due to character pairing and the lack of roles. But it does feel like they're trying to aquaint you and make you swicth strategies. Something that works with Lightning and Hope might not work when you're using Sazh and Vanille because they have different roles. The switching of perspective in the plot and gameplay not only works plotwise but also helps as a long tutorial for each different role.

 

As the game proceeds, buffs and debuffs become more and more important. Those who ignore them like in the older FFs will die from normal battles. They're no longer extra options that you can use to make fights easy but essentials. They work on bosses too (bosses also can inflict debuffs, sometimes a few at one go). There are enemies that resist magic or physical attacks and you have to use the right roles to defeat them. There's really quite a bit to the battle system. Listing them will be too long. You cannot button mash in this game.

 

The A.I. is as smart as the amount of information you have. You however have to decide what optima to change to. Should you take a risk and switch to an Optima that has 1 healer and 2 attackers/blasters? Or should I switch to one that has a defender that can help draw agrro away while my enhancer helps cure debuffs(by casting buffs) and healer heal damage.

The healer always heal HP first. Reviving and curing debuffs are secondary.(this can get irritating because sometimes you really want that dead healer to be revive because 2 healer work faster but the A.I. is more busy curing himself and the leader to health)

The A.I. for attacker seems to work like this---when there are mulitiple enemies cluttered, it will most likely use Attack all or Ruinga. Whether it uses Ruinga or Attack all depend on whether the enemy has resistance to physical or Magical attack. Blasters will use magic that the enemies are weak to.

There is no buffs that have ga spells. So enhancers have to cast spells on individuals. It decides what to cast first based on what attacks the enemies have. If the enemy uses magic more, it'll cast shell on every first before casting protect. If the enemy uses a particular magic, it'll cast the ba-element series (increases elemental defence against a certain element).

Jammers will only cast debuffs that can work on the enemy. If he has all the debuffs possible, the Jammer will do nothing.

But all this is only possible when you have all the enemy's data.

 

 

Battles Cont.

 

Enemy breaking can become a bit tedious in the last dungeon(could be because I was slightly unleveled because I skipped all the optional places in Pulse to proceed with the story) but they feel fun enough most of the time. I thought some of the enemies in the last dungeon were more difficult that the last bosses, who are quite difficult already. Enemies don't feel cheap (death spells that are cast by enemies don't work as often as they do in some of the Megaten series).

 

 

Character Growth.

 

I must say that I like the Crystalium quite a bit. Like the rest of the game, it opens up slowly. As most of you already know, the game caps how much you can progress with the plot and this thing known as the Crystalium level. As the name suggest, when the Crystalilium levels up, the path for each crystalium gets longer.

Characters start with different number of roles. Some starts with 2, others just 1. As the plot progresses, they gain more and finally end up with 3 main roles. Unlike in FFx, the characters dont share a single board. Every character has their own and every role gives characters different abilities. As an attacker, Sazh does not have the ability to launch enemies because he uses a gun, only Lightning, Snow and Fang have them. I'm not sure about Hope and Vanille because I haven't doen their secondary role leveling yet, they don't get ATT until the game opens up all the roles for all characters at a point in the plot.

 

Likewise, characters learn different magic as Blasters. Only Hope gets all the black magic. Sazh and Hope are different Enhancers, Sazh gives more buffs that affect attacks ( Faith, Bravery, Haste and the En-element spells) while Hope learns primarily the protective buffs like Protect. They both learn most of the buffs but at a different point in the Crystalium. This is the same for Fang and Vanille's Jammer Crystaliums. Vanille for example never learns slow and a few other spells.

 

There are no ultimate moves in the game. The 1 unique ability that each character learns is not like the usual limit break but should be used if the situation fits. I do admit that including ultimate attacks would have been nice if one even gets bored with the difficulty.

 

I haven't tried leveling the sub roles (as I call them) since I'm still trying to max out the 3 main roles for each character. The last level of the main roles consists or leveing stats only. Purely meant for post-game since the Crystalium only unlocks after you beat the final boss.

 

 

Weapon & Accessories Customisation.

 

The weapon leveling takes buying for weapons and spin it into something else. Why do I say this?

 

Firstly each character only gets a few weapons this time. By using materials, you can level them up and increase their Physical and Magical Attack stats. Using materials that you get from monsters are not the most effective way of leveling and the drop rate is bad. The best way is to farm for items thats sell for a lot of money, buy the right materials from shops then use them to level weapons. You're still using money but instead of using them to buy weapons, you use them to buy materials to level your equipment. I guess this makes the system seems innovative. I do like seeing my stats for weapons go up though. Also I suspect the small number per character is due to them not waiting to model too many weapons.

 

The Ultimate Weapon system is also different. From what I know, Lightning's Ultimate weapon is Omega weapon. But you can have different versions of it. This depends on the base weapon that you've used right from the start. Each of the few base weapons that Lightning has have different properties/stats that suit different roles. That special ability and the stats proportion(whether it is stronger magically or physically) is kept throughout your crafting. So you will end up with the option to make a few Omega weapons, each of them suitable for a specific role.

 

Accessories (total of 4 slots can be learnt from the Crystalium system) are like armour. Because there's no stats for defence, you have to rely on buffs and these to help. There are those that increases HP and the ones that increase resistance of all kinds. They can be customised too but they usually capped at low levels. Accesories that do not deal with stats usualy capped with 1 level up. Sometimes special accessories like the Ribbon can be found by breaking down accesories that have been maxed out. Note that even ribbon is unlike the one is older FFs. It gives a maximun of 25% protection against debuffs.

 

By pairing specific accesories, you'll also gain extra abilities. I have yet to really explore and see whether this system is gimmicky or actually helps.

 

 

Post Game.

 

Like many others have complained, the game is rather linear and offers no distractions until Pulse.

There are no mini games unless you count one section where you had to control a robot and walk around and pound on enemies for 3 minutes. I do not have a problem with the lack of mini games however.

 

While Pulse is an impressive area that begs to be explore., the pacing managed to make me avoid trying the mob hunts and going straight for the plot. After around 58-60 hours(I'm a slow gamer and had to retry many battles in the last dungeon) I finally finished the main plot and started with post game.

 

In short, the only thing to do in Pulse are mob hunt missions, exploring the hidden areas and finding buried treasure with the Chocobo. Every mob hunt contains a short description, telling us a bit about the monster or the l'cie that failed to perform the task. I decided to follow the missions in their numbered order, starting from level 1. The first 15 or so were fairly easy. I suspect that these were meant to be done during the main game. I think the important thing is that some of these missions have a context to them

 

A few of the areas are locked unti you complete the missions. To get a chocobo you have to do 2 specific missions as well. One unlocks the place whil the other gives you the ability to ride. There is this series of mob hunts where you have to fight the six death generals of the fal'cie. Doing these missions gives you entries in the Auto clip that tells us more about Gran Pulse. I'm not sure what happens when you defeat them all because I've done only 4 out of 6.

 

There's also series of missions that are called the trials of Fal'cie Titan. Unlike normal missions, it is sort of like a gaunlet. You start of by choosing to do a specific mission. The Fal'cie will teleport you to a small area where you''ll encounter the monster. Upon completing, you'll be given 2 mission choices. Choose one of them and you''ll be teleported to the next area. This continues for 4 missions and at every point you'll get to choose between 2 paths/missions. The fifth tier missions are mostly difficult. If you decide to exit the area you'll have to start from the first tier again.

Once you finish all paths (you'll have to go through the trials at least 5 times I think) you would have done missions 35 to 51. I'm not sure whether you'll fight the Fal'cie. I'm not sure whether you understand what I'm saying but basically for the trial you'll start of with mission 35 then you'll choose between mission 36 and 37. At every point you'll choose between 2 missions until you complete 5. The missions are all fixed(doing 35 will always led to you choosing between 36 or 37) and the areas in which you fight them will always be the same. I just started so this is all I've got for the missions.

 

The most irritating thing during postgame(and any other point) would be the need to grind for money. Currently I'm fighting the biggest and second biggest Adamantoise types by relying on luck(Vanille's Death spell). They sometimes drop items that sell for 150 000 and also a rare material that costs 2 million (needed to change weapons to their ultimate weapon form). So most of my time was spent trying to kill them. CP is much an easier problem.

 

Chocobo riding is relaxing and fun. It helps that Pulse is beautiful. The lighting actually changes. The sky is sometimes darker or more cloudy and when it's really bright the character models look really nice. It sometimes gets misty too. Chocobo treasure hunting is sort of random affair. You walk around until you see an exclamation mark. The exclaimation mark will be there as long as you're near the treasure and when I meant near it's not just a few steps but a rathe large. You have to figure out the area by running around to see when the exclamation mark stops coming up and try to walk around slowing until the word treasure appears. Treasure locations are random and the thing you get is taken from a pool of items. The best item is supposed to be ribbon and getting that gives you a trophy. Haven't found it yet.

 

Final conclusions for now

 

The game is really fun but I can see why people might not like it, especially when they haven't tried the game. The structure can really be compared to action adventure games. You go through chapter by chapter and there's no returning, The post game is almost like a separate mode for the game. It is an RPG that tries to change the way RPGs are structured. And I think it's not a bad attempt. This is definitely still an RPG and a Final Fantasy. Like most FFs before, this is merely a different FF from the previous one. If I wanted to play something that's like FF whatever, I'll go play that and not wish to see the return of an exact same product. I won't be surprised if they throw all these away and make FFXV very different again.

 

There are things that I don't like though. I wish we could return to the old locations because many of them are quite a sight. There is no cinema theatre. They should have given us this in the opening menu as a reward of sorts. There could have been a few more locations. Pulse is not as big as it could be. It's just that huge main area with a few branches there and there at the side. Approximately containing ground that adds up 3 dungeons or so. We could have been given more than just monster hunts. I think there are 64 missions in total.

 

I'll add more if I felt I've missed something.

 

 

gran bel Final Fantasy. non ci sono cazzi!

 

 

per i veterani dei jrpg:

 

NIENTE LIMITE AI DANNI MAX INFERTI!! in un video una magia faceva 400mila punti danno!!!! *___*

GLI HP DEI PG SUPERANO I 9999!!!

 

Snow si conferma il personaggio più schifoso del cast (il più stereotipato) ma era già chiaro sin dai primi screen 3 anni fa! XD

 

Dopo la fine del gioco è possibile salvare e continuare con la comparsa di nuovi boss e quest per un aggiunta totale di circa 10 ore di gioco. *____*

 

Italiani che parlano giapponese e stanno ci stanno giocando (non fanboy) considerano il bs quasi un gioco a parte tanto è profondo.

 

Un utente del forum di multiplayer dopo 4 ore era già pieno di domande e cose che non si spiegava. Dice che a differenza degli altri ff che ci vanno un paio di ore perchè la trama prenda piede sul serio; in ff13 sei catapultato direttamente nell'azione e già fin dall'inizio non incontri i soliti 2-3 mostri noob ogni 20 minuti di gioco.

 

Tutti veramente soddisfatti di come sia riuscito a togliere gran parte dei difetti che affliggevano i jrpg in generale

 

e una bella immaginetta per voi:

 

http://i46.tinypic.com/faptw.jpg

[Grayfoxflavio]

Io ho già prenotato final fantasy XIII per ps3, però esce a marzo.

[Testament]

meno male, queste notizie rincuorano un po'.

per ora però la cosa non mi riguarda in quanto non ho intenzione al momento di comprare console di nuova generazione.

[FenriX`]

Same as testament... mi son da poco ricomprato la PS2 perchè mi si era fusa e avevo TROPPI giochi non ancora al 100% e troppi che volevo rigiocare XD

Quindi non ho la minima intenzione di comprarmi una PS3 o una XBox360 :\

[Anthair]

BWAAAAAH!

 

Ommioddio, ma è così bello!

Io l'xbox 360 me la sono comprata per giocare a quello in effetti...e ancora mancano 3 mesi...grande disperazione in me.

 

L'unica cosa di cui mi dispiace è Snow...speravo fosse più originale.

[FenriX`]

snow sarà la versione mal riuscita di zell dintch... (come se Zell potesse essere stereotipato ancora di più)

[Anthair]

snow sarà la versione mal riuscita di zell dintch... (come se Zell potesse essere stereotipato ancora di più)

 

A quanto ho capito Zell e Snow sono totalmente diversi caratterialmente.

Insomma, Zell è un bulletto che pensa allo skate e ai famosi panini.

Snow si sbatte per aiutare(ritrovare?liberare?boh!) la propria ragazza.

 

Bah...si vedrà

[FenriX`]

beh, più che altro intendevo dire: "sei l'ennesimo stereotipo di merda... come zell dintch è lo stereotipo del bulletto cazzone" valeva lo stesso discorso se dicevo Irvine, insomma XD mi sono scocciato dei PG inutili scontati e immutabili XD

(lo ripeto per l'ennesima volta, tanto per mettere le mani avanti, considero FF8 il più grande insulto al genere GDR e al titolo FinalFantasy, un gioco da NON giocare per nessun motivo, quindi se vi piace, non mi parlate, o finirete col litigare con la mia persona U.U)

[Eikichi]

confermo che Snow è il PG MERDA del gruppo.

 

lo odiano tutti...anche gli altri pg del gruppo! XD

[EvilSeep]

Bisogna dire anche che giochi come Oblivion o Dragon Age Origin su console,graficamente,sono abbastanza deludenti...

Ad esempio Lost Odissey e' molto bello di grafica...peccato che il gioco non esista,ed e' quello il problema di tutti

i Jrpg degli ultimi anni,sono tutti un:"vai avanti-2 ore di schermata-

segui il sentiero-2 ore di schermata,scontro,2 ore di schermata ecc..."

Anche i BS a turni hanno fatto il loro tempo, graficamente sono di impatto notevole la prima volta,certo,ma dopo

la quarta volta gia' rimpiangi un Bs alla rpg maker,veloce e non dispersivo...fatto che conferma la teroria che

sono ormai "vecchi"...

E le storie???...Solite azzuffate da Emo,du'balle...

Edited December 27, 2009 by EvilSeep

[VAL]

Bisogna dire anche che giochi come Oblivion o Dragon Age Origin su console,graficamente,sono abbastanza deludenti...

Ad esempio Lost Odissey e' molto bello di grafica...peccato che il gioco non esista,ed e' quello il problema di tutti

i Jrpg degli ultimi anni,sono tutti un:"vai avanti-2 ore di schermata-

segui il sentiero-2 ore di schermata,scontro,2 ore di schermata ecc..."

Anche i BS a turni hanno fatto il loro tempo, graficamente sono di impatto notevole la prima volta,certo,ma dopo

la quarta volta gia' rimpiangi un Bs alla rpg maker,veloce e non dispersivo...fatto che conferma la teroria che

sono ormai "vecchi"...

E le storie???...Solite azzuffate da Emo,du'balle...

 

 

Ma veramente questo lo pensi TU...

Da quanti anni la Bioware reclica le stesse idee per tutti i suoi rpg?

Credi che Dragon age sia innovativo? NO, non lo é. D.A. il classico gioco di ruolo Bioware, ben fatto ma nulla di nuovo. Mass effect? E' innovativo? No è semplicemente Knight of old repubblic mascherato da gioco nuovo.

Lo stesso oblivion non aggiunge nulla di nuovo a Morrowind, anzi TOGLIE cose rispetto al terzo capitolo.

Tra l'altro Evilsleep quello che dici è una generalizzazione abbastanza esagerata.

 

Sei molto severo nel criticare le storie dei Gdr. Ci sarebbe da sapere a quanti Gdr tu abbia però effettivamente giocato e finito o quanto tu ne sappia davvero in materia per poter essere così radicale nel commentarli.

Edited December 27, 2009 by VAL

[spriggan]

Molto vero Sey. Difficile darti torto :)

 

Il 2010 mi sa che è l'anno degli OT... Mi so preso Rockband Beatles...

Clammmmmmoroso. Chiudo OT e mi dileguo prima di farmi prendere dalla

controversia "JRPG, hanno rotto i coglioni oppure no?".

 

Ah.. Auguri con un imponente ritardo.